The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05
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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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  • André Catani
    André Catani

    So sad that sedans are vanishing today, giving place to all those ugly and stupid SUVs...

  • Matt's Garage
    Matt's Garage

    I would 100% agree if I didn’t own the coupe version... Really such a great looking car from every angle!

  • Trey Scudder
    Trey Scudder

    Loved my 1990 300E.... great car. The giant V8 in the 500 looks like a complete bear to work on.

  • Jason Goweser
    Jason Goweser

    Nice video, thanks. I, myself, drive W124 3.2 Sportline 1995.

  • Clayton Bridges
    Clayton Bridges

    *cough* LS400 *cough*

  • Ozi Yılmaz
    Ozi Yılmaz

    Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".

  • Simon Ardfors
    Simon Ardfors

    That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad

  • J Mills
    J Mills

    Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles

  • ghetto journalist tv
    ghetto journalist tv

    lovely driving this masterpiece

  • Edward Kokol
    Edward Kokol

    I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.

  • alan Qtrmaine
    alan Qtrmaine

    Gave the thumbs up just for the title

  • xnreyescj
    xnreyescj

    Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

  • Ghoosh Wen
    Ghoosh Wen

    I love boxy car design

  • Andy Hills
    Andy Hills

    Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.

  • Terence Cheng
    Terence Cheng

    Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

  • Cesar Abraham
    Cesar Abraham

    My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

  • dbernstein85
    dbernstein85

    Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan

  • Tony Curtis Blondell
    Tony Curtis Blondell

    Best car video, lol

  • Simon F
    Simon F

    Cute dressing gown.

  • Mohammad Al Fattal
    Mohammad Al Fattal

    Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

  • Gene Smith
    Gene Smith

    GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.

  • Siddhesh Mhatre
    Siddhesh Mhatre

    Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

  • NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ
    NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ

    Very good video

  • no taboos
    no taboos

    No airbags. Instantly obsolete.

  • LoneWolfSigma
    LoneWolfSigma

    Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.

  • Pistonburner
    Pistonburner

    Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

  • Sgt. Tom
    Sgt. Tom

    It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.

  • marshalllucky
    marshalllucky

    what if you got a popped tire? what then?

  • AeRoTR
    AeRoTR

    I could not stop watching, very good job !

  • josava1
    josava1

    It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

  • Tim Tv Please
    Tim Tv Please

    Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!

  • Parvez A K Khan
    Parvez A K Khan

    My all time favourite W123 and W124

  • bozukbeyin
    bozukbeyin

    This is great content man! Thank you.

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    Michael Davidson

    Can the mexican presenting the video wear normal clothes and quit the classical music

  • Math is not for the faint of heart
    Math is not for the faint of heart

    And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect

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    C S

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    Patriotic Indus

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  • Mark Lydon
    Mark Lydon

    An Italian obsessed with safety????? That must have been a one off.

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    sexphisto

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    gRosh08

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  • Khanya Luthando Ngobo
    Khanya Luthando Ngobo

    I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill

  • Al Ks Mercedes
    Al Ks Mercedes

    You don’t know it in till you try it

  • Norse Viking Æsir
    Norse Viking Æsir

    Too bad the driving footage was shite, rigid mount the camera next time so people can appreciate body roll, etc..

  • nestoavila
    nestoavila

    Lol Derek Tamhyphen Scott lol

  • Norse Viking Æsir
    Norse Viking Æsir

    I want to see it in an actual wind tunnel and come up with that coefficient of drag.

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    mercedesbenzformula1

    One of my favorite cars ever!

  • Hemo A.H.
    Hemo A.H.

    drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.

  • Geri
    Geri

    I have a w124 250D and all i can say is the more i try other new cars the more im convinced of what masterpiece they have built.

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    Wefixanything

    Next one is BMW e60..

  • Q
    Q

    I had one. Yes the best ever built.

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    Peter Forte

    I want!!!

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    Shrek Wazowski

    "Porsha"

  • zoomer46 zoomer46
    zoomer46 zoomer46

    to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.

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    JD Mosley

    You spelled "WRX STi" wrong.

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    Nick Adams

    The host is such annoying a hole

  • joesaric1
    joesaric1

    But whyyyyyyyy again ??

  • Surfman
    Surfman

    Ls400 is better tho.

  • PGC
    PGC

    I own a showroom 1990 300ce24V: a 3.0 litre six straight engine providing some lovely and smooth 232 HP with catalytic converter: it was around the time when in the US most of the V8 5 litres were giving some 140 HP at their best. Is that correct? All the stuff, accessories and amenities you are enthusiast about in this car, were standard in mine too. No miracle just for your 500E but "standard fitting" for any top of class models of the period.

  • Antonio Bonvecchio
    Antonio Bonvecchio

    datti na calmata che è una merda di auto come le altre

  • Live Life
    Live Life

    It is a MercySadie. Mercy Sadie, the darn thing wont start again. I can still hear father to this day.

  • Ben Bond
    Ben Bond

    And then, as has probably already been mentioned, there was the beastly W124 V12.

  • Matt Hunter
    Matt Hunter

    2003 E46 328i ZLP sport package is best sedan ever

  • CCOCCARO
    CCOCCARO

    Jason...why no love for the W124 M119 4.2L? Those cars didn't have the short gearing so they were capable of being faster, if not quicker. While I don't dare drive my 27 year old '94 E420 like you did the 500, it still delivers the goods. Two wishes: Mercedes-Benz would offer more support for the OBD I cars and a glove box. MBNA spun the barrel reducing the W124 price by $10K in 1993 to chase Lexus wisely. I doubt the accountants would let that kind of currency hedge happen today.

  • Emerson Galvao
    Emerson Galvao

    My grandfather bought this car in Toronto Ontario sent it across the sea and now sits in his house in Portugal. It's a s*** engine it can barely make up a hill he has a diesel

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  • Ty Kit
    Ty Kit

    Is this the car for the nurburgring lap in granturismo 4?

  • 4390100
    4390100

    We had a Diesel version and it lasted until 500,000 kilos with no big maintenance bills, never had one here that lasted that long, even the Toyota's here don't get over 350,000 and that last one is usually the longer lasting one.

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    William Adams

    Property does not have rights. People have rights. The right to enjoy property without unlawful deprivation.

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      Cleveland

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  • goarif1
    goarif1

    Can compete even todays car

  • Jd White
    Jd White

    ❤️ my e-63 I've soul crushed so many two door zipperheads....all while the ac is cranking and my seat message going.😃

  • 1a
    1a

    i want this beauty.

  • azharudheen S
    azharudheen S

    Powerful presentation..

  • The-bro-jason
    The-bro-jason

    Those rear head rests are so annoying when they retract

  • quantumphaser
    quantumphaser

    I had the same engine in my 1990 500SL. Incredible engine.

  • Rok Baro
    Rok Baro

    For Albanians MB will always be the king of the road 👌

  • BonuxCouleur
    BonuxCouleur

    I almost bought the 560SEC Series 10 years ago but could not afford the insurance (and I suspect the fuel consumption) but what a car it was especially in this coupe version. With the massive black star logo it looked like a beast, sounded like a beast... Bloody insurance scums.

  • Your Average Passer-By
    Your Average Passer-By

    This was my grandfather's car. I have good memories of riding shotgun while he drove me around town.

  • Calisota WGPR
    Calisota WGPR

    hmmm but what about the BMW 850 CSi?

  • crazycool1128
    crazycool1128

    >chunk of plastic over the engine Into the trash it goes

  • Patrick Smith
    Patrick Smith

    Dude so glad to see you back on the ITmores

  • Quivver77
    Quivver77

    @1:00 - "6.3 Litres of Shut up Hippee!" - This guy has a way with words!

  • 032HULK
    032HULK

    Cuz of 500E we love Taxi 1.

  • DDOT EEL
    DDOT EEL

    Lexus LS400 > Mercedes 500E

  • Scotty MSU
    Scotty MSU

    Nah, my 1988 Honda Accord LXi with pop up head light was my perfect Sedan!

  • Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo
    Steel prime King of Dabbleyoo

    Engines, to be fully efficient, should be silent, cold and still in the frame (no vibrations).

  • Rod Dooley
    Rod Dooley

    I have 190E collection,all I could afford but have 2 Cosworths,and 3 Sportlines and an LE .Friend had 500E car ,it was too MUCH !!!

  • Aditya CEO
    Aditya CEO

    Finest looking car with no cheap electronics!

  • Infinit01
    Infinit01

    Still a beautiful MB in 2021

  • James Copsey
    James Copsey

    Thanks for the ride.

  • Original J
    Original J

    Thanks for helping make my favorite car series, the Lexus LS.

  • kmcbatch2017 kmc
    kmcbatch2017 kmc

    nice

  • Roar Christoffersen
    Roar Christoffersen

    A Mercedes that looks like a Mercedes form all angles!! Great. Today , you can't tell some Mercedes from a Mazda or Toyota. Today, most car designers are nothing but clones of each other.

  • Joe M
    Joe M

    Ls400 is a better machine. Change my mind

  • Tomas Tylecek
    Tomas Tylecek

    i owned 93 300E, loved the car

  • Mr Autospec
    Mr Autospec

    W126 500 is better!

  • JVA
    JVA

    A lot of these w124 went well over 1M km as taxi cars here in europe

  • machedar
    machedar

    Also let’s you know how good the Lexus LS400 was !

  • Kanyanga
    Kanyanga

    This popped up on my feed. I've just began falling in love with Mercedes Benz S Class Sedans. Lemmie review this ♥️💯👌

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